In Gorton and Denton, I heard again and again that people wanted seismic political change – Labour and the Tories are no longer part of that conversation, says Guardian columnist John Harris

Got battered at the polls? No problem. Just act like voters want more of what you’re selling – not considerably less, asks Guardian columnist Marina Hyde

This corner of Greater Manchester, a key brick in the red wall, felt abandoned by Labour. Its voters tell Dan Haygarth why they’ve ditched Starmer’s party, leaving it with nowhere…