Stay up to date with notifications from The IndependentNotifications can be managed in browser preferences.Jump to contentThank you for registeringPlease refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged inAllNewsSportCultureLifestyleJD Vance discussed his "chaotic" 12-year marriage to Usha Vance during an appearance on Steven Bartlett’s Diary of a CEO podcast on Thursday, 18 June. He described Usha as his "best friend" but admitted there were many times he thought their relationship would end. Vance attributed early problems in their marriage to his own "avoidant attachment style." He confirmed that he and Usha have not attended couples' counselling together. Vance explained that while he has been to therapy individually, he finds it "way too uncomfortable to talk to a stranger" in a couples' setting. In full‘There were many times I thought it would end’: JD Vance on marriage to UshaThank you for registeringPlease refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in