Harvard Business Review LogoHis mindset: “Losing doesn’t work for me.” by Adi IgnatiusGuerin Blask/AUGUSTFollowing a successful nine-year stint as the CEO of PayPal, Dan Schulman was ready to retire. But after the board of Verizon repeatedly urged him to step in, he became the CEO of theDan Schulman wasn’t looking to get back in the game. After a successful nine-year stint as the CEO of PayPal, he was ready to retire. But the board of Verizon repeatedly urged him to step in to try to reverse the slide at the telecommunications giant, and late last year he agreed. As Verizon’s CEO, his task is to turn around a company that has seen steep declines in market share, share price, and customer satisfaction. In a conversation with HBR editor at large Adi Ignatius, Schulman discusses how he’s trying to shake up Verizon’s culture, the risk and promise of AI, and what it takes to be an exceptional leader. Here are excerpts.