While Coachella typically kicks off summer music festival season in the U.S., Lollapalooza is far from the end of the season this year.

This weekend’s Lolla in Chicago — going down July 30 through Aug. 2 and headlined by pop stars including Charli xcx, JENNIE, Tate McRae, Lorde and Olivia Dean — will be followed by two brand-new festivals in Southern California: the one-day, Olivia Rodrigo-created Daisy Chain Fields and the two-day, Santa Monica beach concert Ocean Way Festival.

On the new Billboard Pop Shop Podcast, Katie & Keith are talking about each of the festivals, breaking down the performers (Rodrigo, Chappell Roan, Stevie Nicks and more on Daisy Chain’s all-women lineup; Dean, The Killers, Jack White and more at Ocean Way) and deciding that we’ll probably need to take a Pop Shop field trip to the beach for the latter. Listen now:

Also on the show, we’ve got chart news on how Gracie Abrams achieves her first No. 1 album on the Billboard 200 with Daughter From Hell and how Ella Langley holds tight at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 songs chart for a 15th week with “Choosin’ Texas” — but could a certain country superstar knock her out of the top slot next week with their brand-new song?