After hearing The Gilded Age‘s Carrie Coon talk about the doors that remain closed to her, Love Story breakout Sarah Pidgeon asks whether anybody gathered for THR‘s annual Drama Actresses Emmy Roundtable ever feels like they’ve truly made it. The answer? A unanimous “no,” with the subtle implication that anyone who says otherwise may be delusional. “The vast majority of us are just working,” says Claire Danes (The Beast in Me). Climbing to another rung of the endless Hollywood ladder was something all six women — including Chase Infiniti (The Testaments), Rhea Seehorn (Pluribus) and Kerry Washington (Imperfect Women) — could relate to when they convened at The Georgian Hotel on a late April afternoon and covered everything from red carpet insecurities to becoming a 420 meme.

Chase endured a six-month audition for One Battle After Another. What is the hardest any of you have worked to get a job, whether you booked it or not?

CLAIRE DANES Well, there’s a Leo [DiCaprio] connection. I auditioned many times for Romeo + Juliet.

CARRIE COON Who else would have done it?

KERRY WASHINGTON Nobody!