A conversation between Rufus Pollock, founder of Datopian, and Anuar Ustayev, CTO — from the AI Learned Today minicast.

Two months ago, Anuar Ustayev — Datopian's CTO — adopted Gas Town as his primary tool for orchestrating multiple AI coding agents. It changed how he worked. Today, if he were starting from scratch, he might not choose it.

That's not a criticism of Gas Town. It's a signal of how fast the tooling landscape is moving — and how immature the infrastructure around multi-agent AI workflows still is.

This post is a distillation of two candid conversations about what multi-agent AI development actually looks like in practice: the workflow shifts, the unsolved problems, and the honest answers to questions most AI content avoids.

The Bottleneck Has Moved