The former first lady was on ABC’s The View Tuesday, touting View from the East Wing: A Memoir, her account of former President Joe Biden’s single term in the White House, and her husband’s age-related decline came up as it does in most of her interviews.“But the doctors told me he was fine,” she replied. “I’m not a doctor. I mean, I am a doctor.”

The audience and hosts erupted in laughter. Jill Biden holds a Doctor of Education degree in educational leadership from the University of Delaware, which she received during her husband’s final term in the Senate.

But Joe Biden’s condition as president wasn’t always a laughing matter, as Jill herself acknowledged during a previous interview that she thought he might have been having a stroke during his disastrous debate with President Donald Trump.

That debate ended Biden’s reelection campaign, but his family and closest advisers resisted fellow Democrats’ initial attempts to nudge him from the top of the ticket.

Chief among them was Jill Biden, who in real time defended her husband’s debate performance even though she acknowledged in her book and subsequent promotional interviews that they knew how badly it went. She still insists he could have won the election.