Rivian’s chief software officer, Wassym Bensaid, joined Nilay Patel in the latest Decoder interview. And his comments on CarPlay show Rivian continuing to double down on its refusal to support Apple’s platform.

Rivian’s software chief explains why customers don’t need CarPlay

Nilay Patel’s Decoder podcast often features high-profile guests in the automotive world, and Patel always asks about CarPlay. Last fall, for example, Rivian’s CEO RJ Scaringe joined the show and said that “customers will appreciate” the lack of CarPlay eventually.

Decoder’s latest episode features Rivian’s software chief, Wassym Bensaid. It arrives shortly after Rivian launched its highly anticipated AI assistant.

In addition to talking about the assistant, and Patel’s positive and negative experiences with it, the conversation highlights CarPlay.