One of Samsung’s upcoming foldable phones seems to exist mainly as a counter to Apple’s rumored “iPhone Ultra” and, with the branding for “Galaxy Z Fold 8 Ultra” having now popped up, it all seems to be coming together – but not in the way you’d think.

Apple’s first foldable is rumored to be called the “iPhone UItra,” for some reason. But what’s far more interesting about it is the form factor, which is expected to revive a long-lost wider format that we saw in devices like the Oppo Find N and, more well-known, the original Google Pixel Fold. It mostly failed on Android due to app issues, but everyone seems like they want to give it another shot.

Samsung’s take on this has been thought to be called the “Galaxy Z Fold 8 Wide,” a name that’s been widely accepted but that, at least personally, has always felt a little sloppy.

Somehow, the latest rumors are worse.

Leaker Ice Universe says that Samsung is adding the “Galaxy Z Fold 8 Ultra” to its lineup next year, not at the new wider form factor designed to directly compete with the “iPhone Ultra,” but as a rebrand of what we thought would be the standard Galaxy Z Fold 8.