ToplineA network of popular conservative podcasters helped push President Donald Trump to victory in 2024 with a series of overtly friendly interviews that have been credited with rallying a base of young men, but many of those same voices have now turned against him in a fracturing that could have long-term implications for the MAGA movement and the Republican Party. Joe Rogan and Donald Trump at Madison Square Garden on Nov. 16, 2024 in New York City.Zuffa LLCKey FactsLengthy interviews—where Trump’s views were rarely challenged—on the shows of Joe Rogan, Theo Von, Andrew Schulz, the Nelk Boys and other "bro-casts" drew tens of millions of listeners in the six months before voters headed to polls, and then-ally Elon Musk went on to say the appearances made a "big difference" in the election. But many of those same podcasters and a handful of others with massive, largely conservative audiences have since majorly backed away from the president, either shifting toward a more neutral stance or—in the cases of people like Megyn Kelly, Alex Jones and Candace Owens—competely cutting ties with him. Alex Jones, the conspiracy theorist behind the “Infowars” podcast and website, said Thursday that he supported the “old Trump” but that the president has “totally changed” and is now under “demonic influences,” adding: “I have made it very clear that I no longer support Trump and I’m very thankful to him for making it clear that I have nothing to do with him. The new Trump is a rotting husk of the old Trump.”Rogan’s three-hour interview with and endorsement of Trump was largely cited as a major factor in his reelection victory, but his support has been much more muted in recent months and on Wednesday he publicly broke by calling himself "politically homeless." Von, who didn't challenge Trump at all when he hosted him in 2024, broke from the president last year after his image was used without permission in a deportation video and this week went on Rogan’s podcast calling the Trump administration “f***ing terrorists.”Right-wing podcaster Candace Owens has been attacking Trump since last summer, when she called him a "chronic disappointment" and said she's "embarrassed" she campaigned for him during the 2024 election cycle. Owens continued to criticize Trump in recent days, calling for his removal under the 25th Amendment and describing him as “satanic” and a “genocidal lunatic.” Megyn Kelly, another former Fox-News-host-turned-podcaster, supported Trump's agenda in 2024 despite a rocky personal history with the president, but this week condemned Trump in her strongest terms yet: “I don’t know about you, but I am sick of this s***! I’m just, I’m sick of it. Can’t he just behave like a normal human?,” she said, later adding that Fox News’ wall-to-wall Trump-supporting coverage is “folly.” Former Fox News host Tucker Carlson often propped up the president on the cable news channel and took his support with him when he started “The Tucker Carlson Show” podcast, but a shift away from the president solidified into a major rift this week when he called a profanity-laced Easter post from Trump “vile” and suggested he may be the Antichrist. Despite supporting him through 2024, Schulz has since expressed significant disillusionment with the second Trump administration, recently saying he’s reached a “breaking point” and last month criticized the president for starting a war when Americans “can’t f***ing afford healthcare.” Get Forbes Breaking News Text Alerts: We’re launching text message alerts so you'll always know the biggest stories shaping the day’s headlines. Text “Alerts” to (201) 335-0739 or sign up here: joinsubtext.com/forbes.Chief CriticNobody has expressed more vitriol for the turning tide than Trump himself. On Thursday afternoon he posted a scathing, lengthy post to Truth Social calling his former podcast supporters "losers" with "Low IQs." "They’re stupid people, they know it, their families know it, and everyone else knows it, too! Look at their past, look at their record," Trump said. They don’t have what it takes, and they never did!" Trump specifically called out Carlson, Kelly, Owens and Jones, attacking them individually for their views and accusing them all of "trying to latch on to MAGA." "As President, I could get them on my side anytime I want to, but when they call, I don’t return their calls because I’m too busy on World and Country Affairs," Trump posted. Owens responded to Trump’s comments by saying, “It may be time to put Grandpa up in a home.” Jones responded in a video, in which he said, “I’m just so sad.”ContraSome voices are still standing behind Trump. Mark Levin, a conservative talk-show host, often shares praise of the president and has attacked his critics, recently calling Carlson "Traitor Tucker.” "All-In Podcast" co-host David Sacks has long supported Trump, and was recently appointed to the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology. Right-wing media voices like Sean Hannity and Jack Posobiec have also continued their public support in recent weeks. Far right-wing conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer has also largely stood by the president, though she did criticize his Iranian ceasefire earlier this week.Key BackgroundTrump's pre-election podcast tour was specifically designed to court the so-called "manoverse" or "manosphere," an unofficial network of voices that promote masculinity and are largely anti-feminist. Most listeners to manosphere podcasts are men in their 20s, and Trump also sprinkled in appearances on male-forward comedy and sports shows to reach more young men. It worked: Trump won 55% of the male vote, buoyed by Latinos, white men and young voters, and has largely continued to enjoy support from the demo—until now. The war with Iran, which Trump started in conjunction with Israel six weeks ago, has started to sever his connection to young men just as it has with his former podcast supporters. Young MAGA loyalists are becoming increasingly frustrated with the conflict, Politico reported. Less than half of self-identified “MAGA Republicans” under the age of 35 believe Trump has a plan to end the war, a poll shows, and young supporters are significantly less likely to say the war is aligned with MAGA principles and in the interests of American people than their older Trump-supporting peers. One unnamed source told Politico Trump is even losing the support of young, right-wing White House staffers. Further ReadingForbesMAGA Rift Deepens As Trump Attacks Iran War Critics—Alex Jones And Candace Owens RespondBy Siladitya RayForbesBipartisan Calls To Remove Trump From Office Grew As He Threatened Iranian ‘Genocide’By Mary Whitfill Roeloffs
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