Hoda Kotb knows what it’s like to completely overhaul a career and start fresh in a brand-new industry.

The longtime journalist left NBC’s “TODAY” in January after 26 years with the organization, and launched her own company — a wellness brand called Joy 101 — in May. Becoming a first-time CEO at age 60 felt somewhat impossible to her, which is exactly why she decided to do it, she said on a Dec. 8 episode of “The Mel Robbins Podcast.”

Whether you’re “20 or 40 or 60 or 80,” you can determine whether such a drastic career change is right for you by asking yourself one important question, said Kotb, now 61: Is this job giving me what I deserve?

In Kotb’s case, she was ready for a new challenge, and realized during an on-air 60th birthday celebration that continuing her journalism career probably wouldn’t fulfill that need, she said. “I was almost having an out of body [experience],” she said. “I kept thinking ... This is the top of the wave. I could feel it ... This is the best it’s ever going to be.”

Other people may come to a similar conclusion through more a frustrating process: Maybe you’ve worked a job where you didn’t receive enough positive feedback, or the company lacked opportunities for you to learn and grow.