Marlon Wayans, Julia Fox and Tyriq Withers recently sat down with BAFTA to promote their new sports horror movie, “HIM.” At one point during the interview, the trio were asked why they think it’s important to make movies that explore toxic masculinity and what a “real man” is — and Fox quickly made it clear that she wasn’t satisfied with Wayans’ response.

“I think the youth needs to hear what real men are. You know, there’s masculine...” Wayans began before being cut off by Fox, who pulled a face and asked, “But what are real men?”

“Right,” Wayans continued. “To me, a real man is a responsible man—” he said before being interrupted again. Fox interjected, “’Cause every time a man does some fuck shit, they’ll be like, ’That’s not a real man!’ And it’s like, ‘Looks like a man to me!’”

Wayans attempted to continue speaking, stating, “I think a real man is in touch with his feminine side.” However, he was interrupted yet again by Fox, who said, “Looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck.”

Wayans continued, “I think a real man knows how to unstrap from his ego—” but Fox interjected again and said, “I don’t know. I think the ‘real man’ thing is just the thing that people invented to excuse bad behavior. Like, all men are real men.”