For some, being a morning person might mean waking up at 6 a.m., but for 84-year-old Martha Stewart, her day starts at 4 a.m. Why so early, you might ask? The media mogul, author, and chef wants to be up before her staff arrives at 7 a.m.

“For everybody who really wants to get a lot done in a day. I live on a farm. Everybody comes to work at seven, so you can’t be in bed. You have to be up and you have to show them that you’re as lively as they are at 7 a.m., so that’s what I do,” Stewart said on the podcast, Lipstick on the Rim, hosted by Molly Sims and her best friend Emese Gormley.

During the interview, Stewart detailed what her morning routine looks like, which includes reading the newspaper and playing brain teaser games.

“I read the entire New York Times. I do all the puzzles. I do Letterboxd. I do Titles. I do all of those silly games but it’s good for your brain. It’s just good,” Stewart says.

After finishing up, Stewart adds that she will either go to the gym or do Pilates before returning home and having her daily green juice, which she makes from vegetables grown in her own garden.