Considering how Manchester United have started the new season, it's a scoreline Michael Carrick wouldn't even dare to dream about.
In fact, Carrick would accept a win of any description against Ipswich Town at Old Trafford this weekend. Let alone one which comes close to the historic drubbing United inflicted on Ipswich on the same ground more than three decades ago.
Opening another campaign more in hope than expectation, United managed to burst their own balloon in 90 miserable minutes at Hull City.
A shock defeat to a promoted team was the worst possible opening to a season which is expected to provide the acid test of Carrick's managerial credentials.
