By

Olivia Craighead,

a news writer for The Cut who covers pop culture and celebrity.

Previously, she wrote about pop culture and entertainment at Gawker.

According to Jennifer Garner, the paparazzi of the aughts were so desperate for photos of her, Ben Affleck, and their children that they were putting everyone involved in danger. On Tuesday’s episode of Shut Up Evan, Garner told Evan Ross Katz what it was like to be hounded by the paps when her children were young. Spoiler: It sounds awful.