Lesley Groff, Jeffrey Epstein’s longtime assistant, told members of Congress last month that she never met any of the girls and young women who provided massages to Epstein and that she didn’t know anything about their backgrounds – including how old they were.

Some Epstein survivors say that Groff was not telling the truth.

In interviews with CNN, multiple Epstein victims, including four women who spoke on record and two who shared their accounts anonymously, took issue with various aspects of Groff’s recent testimony to lawmakers. They described meeting Groff in person, discussing with Groff how old they were and being directly paid by Epstein’s assistant of 18 years — all contrary to what Groff told lawmakers.

Those details were part of Groff’s hourslong, transcribed June 9 interview with the House Oversight Committee about her experience working for Epstein. She told members of the panel – which has been questioning a series of people in the convicted sex offender’s orbit this year – that she never knew about Epstein’s abuse of girls and women and that she was duped by his manipulation.

While Groff was listed as a potential co-conspirator to Epstein as part of the controversial non-prosecution agreement struck with federal prosecutors in Florida in 2008, she has never been charged with a crime.