The pair sat down with Spotify for a conversation about songwriting ahead of Abrams' new album.
After first connecting more than half a decade ago on Instagram, Gracie Abrams and Olivia Rodrigo — who have since become stars in pop music — just reunited to talk about their friendship, lives and careers for a Spotify conversation posted Tuesday (July 7).
And though the friends and former tourmates had plenty to discuss, they of course spent much of their time together chatting about one of their favorite things: songwriting, including ways they’ve felt “careless” in how they handled a subject or struggled to capture love in the past. With Abrams’ new album Daughter From Hell dropping in a matter of days, Rodrigo was bursting with compliments and shared that one of her favorite songs on the upcoming record is “Afflictions.”
“It feels pure, but also very mature,” the two-time Grammy winner remarked, with Abrams noting that it’s the only straightforward love song on Daughter From Hell. “It feels like the love is very deep and not superficial.”
“It is,” Abrams agreed, revealing that she finds it difficult to write about love. “I can’t write about it much. When I’ve tried to write about it before, it kind of diminishes what it actually feels like. But that [song] is super real for me.”
