Vice President JD Vance said that he believes Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez will be the leading Democratic candidate for president 2028.

“I think it’s got to be AOC. I know that’s probably conventional wisdom,” Vance said during an interview on “The Michael Knowles Show” released Tuesday.

When the host argued that conventional wisdom pointed more toward California Gov. Gavin Newsom, Vance pushed back.

“No, no,” he said. “I don’t buy that. I think I think he hurt himself with his comment to an audience full of black Americans that I’m low IQ, just like you.”

Vance was referring to a comment Newsom made at an event promoting his book in Atlanta, where the California governor said, “I’m not trying to impress you. I’m just trying to impress upon you. I’m like you. I’m no better than you, you know, I’m a 960 SAT guy … you’ve never seen me read a speech, because I can’t read a speech.”