Labour's Ayesha Verrall and National's Simeon Brown.
Labour and National both think they know how to fix the health system.
Everyone agrees there's work to be done, but on Wednesday in Parliament's Health Select Committee, politicians clashed over the details - with the government's Budget under the microscope for scrutiny week.
Both sides of the aisle agreed the biggest problem was access.
Health Minister Simeon Brown told the committee: "The number one issue for patients right now is accessing a doctor - being able to get an appointment."
