Right-wing pundit Megyn Kelly, who has been an outspoken supporter of President Donald Trump, recently acknowledged that she has overlooked some of Trump’s “darker demons” for years. But experts in public humanities and American studies emphasize that the qualities Kelly said she has chosen to overlook were quite a lot to ignore.

During an episode of her podcast “The Megyn Kelly Show” that premiered on Wednesday, comedian Russell Brand asked Kelly why she thinks people still “love” Trump despite the recent waves of public criticism he’s received from prominent figures from his own base — including Kelly.

Kelly cited Trump’s “charming” sense of humor as an appealing attribute before she dove into typical right-wing culture-war talking points.

“He stood up against the race dogma, the trans dogma, the xenophobe dogma about having a southern border in a way that was very admirable — and we needed desperately because we were losing those wars,” she said. “You know, the woke thing was taking over in every department with our children, with our lives and our employment.”

“Trump was the bulwark against it, saying ‘Hell no,’” she added.