What is it like negotiating with the Russians over the war in Ukraine?
It is a question many are interested in knowing the answer to following several recent rounds of peace talks, which have so far appeared to bear little fruit four years after Russia's full-scale invasion.
Another round of the US-mediated discussions is likely to take place in Geneva later this week. Ahead of it, the BBC has spoken to Serhii Kyslytsia, a member of Ukrainian President Zelensky's delegation, who has taken part in the recent military-to-military discussions.
According to Kyslytsia, these dealings are business-like and generally free of the sort of political and historical grandstanding seen elsewhere by Moscow.
"The military has a better understanding of what is going on in the battlefield," he told me when we met in the presidential palace on Monday morning.
