Aussie guitar duo Royel Otis show up to our interview looking artfully crumpled, beers in hand - but all is not quite what it seems.
The band - made up of twenty-somethings Royel Maddell (guitar) and Otis Pavlovic (lead vocals, guitar) - are on a rare day off. Last night, they played the last of three sold-out concerts at London's Brixton Academy. It was their 81st gig of the year.
They're dishevelled because they've just got off a bus to Glasgow, ahead of show 82. The beers are alcohol-free Guinness.
"We're learning how to look after ourselves [on tour]," says Maddell. "We just try to stay healthy and hit the saunas. Try to stay sober. Hence the Guinness."
It's a new level of professionalism for a band that never really intended to become a major touring act.
