On this episode of Fortune’s Leadership Next podcast, cohosts Diane Brady, executive editorial director of the Fortune CEO Initiative and Fortune Live Media, and editorial director Kristin Stoller talk with Logitech CEO Hanneke Faber. They discuss the entrepreneurial nature of the Netherlands, Faber’s home country; her move from the consumer products sector to consumer tech; and why “hardware is sexy,” particularly in the age of AI.

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Transcript:

Kristin Stoller: There’s too many screens, there’s too many devices. How do you solve for that?

Hanneke Faber: There’s definitely a segment of the consumer these days that is tech tired. And I count myself amongst those. I think tech is best when you actually don’t know that it’s there.