Leave it up to a former White House press secretary to give decent advice about effective communication — even if she worked for someone who speaks out of both sides of his mouth.

Sarah Matthews, a critic of President Donald Trump who formerly worked as his White House deputy press secretary, joined the panel on MSNBC’s “The Weeknight” Monday for a conversation about voter suppression, which the panel clearly seemed to think isn’t the most captivating subject for the average American.

“How do you make people care about this?” co-host Alicia Menendez asked, referring to the Department of Justice’s announcement last week that it will monitor polls in six heavily Latino counties in New Jersey and California on Election Day, potentially intimidating would-be voters.

Co-host and former Republican National Committee Chair Michael Steele suggested Democrats should follow suit and send election monitors into red states.

But Matthews had a simpler and possibly more impactful idea: Call out what Trump is doing in everyday language.