If you’re in President Donald Trump’s inner circle, your workday might not end even when you’re in bed after midnight.

In a recent New Yorker profile on Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick, Lutnick detailed Trump’s regular late-night calls to him around 1 a.m., when he is in bed.

Lutnick told the New Yorker writer that during these nightly bedtime calls, he and Trump discussed both work-related tariffs and “sporting events, people, who’d you have dinner with, what was this guy like, can you believe what this guy did, what’s the TV like, I saw this on TV, what’d you think of what this guy said on TV, what did you think about my press conference, how about this Truth?”

For Lutnick, these wide-ranging, late-night chitchats are not exclusive to him: “Trump has other people he calls late at night,” he told the New Yorker.

But it’s different when these 1 a.m. calls are coming from your boss.