Self-made millionaire, author and TV host Ramit Sethi knows a thing or two about money. He’s even published books on how to get rich and how couples can manage their finances together.

But his own financial journey hasn’t been perfect. He recently sat down with his wife, Cassandra, for a special episode of his Money for Couples podcast where they answered some of the same questions he asks couples every week in an interview with friend Julie Nguyen.

The Sethis have been married since 2018, and Ramit has often shared tidbits about their relationship on his podcast and in his books, highlighting some of the strategies they’ve used to navigate combining finances, earning different incomes, creating shared goals and more.

On the podcast, Ramit and Cassandra agreed on the most difficult money conversation they’ve ever had as a couple: negotiating their prenup before getting married.

“I’m sweating thinking about it right now,” Ramit said. ”[The] first time I brought it up, I remember I had talked to so many people, gotten advice, planned what I was gonna say and I was very nervous about it.”